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Hi everybody,

I just realised again, that some rather ordinary landing shots regularly make the frontpage at jp, in contrast to a.net not pushed by the sites facebook (that doesn't seem to be nearly as powerful anyway) account or so.
These are two prime examples:
Yeah, I realised as well that this photographer seems to have specialised in putting ordinary shots on the frontpage, but I've seen similar ones from other photographers on top spots as well, though in both cases there have been more spectacular ones in the top 24h.

Do you think this is through FR24, own social media channels or something?
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That user has another very ordinary photo which already has over 1,000 views without reaching the Top Shots:
Ugly lighting, and quite frankly shouldn't have even been accepted due to quality issues. Most of his uploads, many of which are standard captures, have large view counts (http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=11491). Looks like he has a fairly popular Facebook presence with over 2,000 likes (https://www.facebook.com/FLAPV1/). But even with that many, Facebook should only show each post to about 15% of the total audience, unless the admin pays up.
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Guest wrote:That user has another very ordinary photo which already has over 1,000 views without reaching the Top Shots:
Ugly lighting, and quite frankly shouldn't have even been accepted due to quality issues. Most of his uploads, many of which are standard captures, have large view counts (http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=11491). Looks like he has a fairly popular Facebook presence with over 2,000 likes (https://www.facebook.com/FLAPV1/). But even with that many, Facebook should only show each post to about 15% of the total audience, unless the admin pays up.
Even with that would you click on such a shot when you see it on Facebook? I certainly wouldn't. But wow interesting what he posts there, no disrespect but I would be ashamed if a shot like the ANA 787 would be associated with my name.
At least his Facebook page explains something. If he can just get 300-400 extra views there this surely helps.
Good research I have to say! :D
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Guest wrote:That user has another very ordinary photo which already has over 1,000 views without reaching the Top Shots:
Ugly lighting, and quite frankly shouldn't have even been accepted due to quality issues. Most of his uploads, many of which are standard captures, have large view counts (http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=11491). Looks like he has a fairly popular Facebook presence with over 2,000 likes (https://www.facebook.com/FLAPV1/). But even with that many, Facebook should only show each post to about 15% of the total audience, unless the admin pays up.
Even with that would you click on such a shot when you see it on Facebook? I certainly wouldn't. But wow interesting what he posts there, no disrespect but I would be ashamed if a shot like the ANA 787 would be associated with my name.
At least his Facebook page explains something. If he can just get 300-400 extra views there this surely helps.
Good research I have to say! :D
Yeah, sorry to say I wouldn't even bother uploading about 50% of the shots he promotes on his FB page :| Most of his JetPhotos link posts have up to and over 20 shares. Clicking for more detail, they all seem to be him sharing them with various FB aviation groups, using at least two FB accounts (https://www.facebook.com/fab.lee.10 and https://www.facebook.com/christine.ng.374). These days, group and hashtag/keyword spamming seem to be the way to get your photos noticed, as sad as it is. Every day, on Facebook, Flickr, Instagram, etc., I see poor or mediocre photos get lots of attention and praise, while quality photos go unnoticed. It blows my mind.
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Fully agree with you.

Our boy is again about to reach top-spots
Again rather poor light (don't shoot with sun please! :D ), and definitely very poor quality: soft, blurry (?), noisy, ...
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Guest wrote:Fully agree with you.

Our boy is again about to reach top-spots
Again rather poor light (don't shoot with sun please! :D ), and definitely very poor quality: soft, blurry (?), noisy, ...
Yet I get a jetphotos reject today for dark, underexposed :roll:

Is this person a screener there or something? That shot is pretty blurry towards the rear of the fuselage and tail.
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I'm just wondering if those are "Fab Lee's Preferred Aviation Photos and Videos", what do the non-preferred ones look like? :shock:
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Guest wrote:I'm just wondering if those are "Fab Lee's Preferred Aviation Photos and Videos", what do the non-preferred ones look like? :shock:

Good question. I really don't want to know.

But it is getting rather odd, yet another low-light, low quality, ordinary side-on shot of his that got to the top-spots:
I mean not only that they are getting constantly accepted (which I can't understand neither), there are just 4 top spots at JP an one seems to be almost constantly blocked with an awful shot of his. This is very annoying.
People at jp can't be happy about that, his shots really aren't good publicity for any serious aviation website.
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Additionally he has some true experts commenting his site.

On another awful shot (I really don't want to link at give him another click):
"Stunning shot my friend and looking Stunning livery with excellent picture quality"

If this is excellent picture quality, again I'd like to know what this guy defines as not-so-good quality.
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Guest wrote: Good question. I really don't want to know.

But it is getting rather odd, yet another low-light, low quality, ordinary side-on shot of his that got to the top-spots:
I mean not only that they are getting constantly accepted (which I can't understand neither), there are just 4 top spots at JP an one seems to be almost constantly blocked with an awful shot of his. This is very annoying.
People at jp can't be happy about that, his shots really aren't good publicity for any serious aviation website.
Looks like Fab got passed by a photo that JetPhotos promoted on Facebook, and now all four spots are occupied by JetPhotos promotions. Maybe it's time to campaign for fairer promotion practices, like people did with A.net (to deaf ears). The only things I can think of are 1) no non-newsworthy, non-Top 4 promotions within the first 24 hours, 2) excluding promoted shots from the homepage, or 3) making a separate Top 4 for promoted shots. 2 and 3 would be a simple database change. This of course, wouldn't account for the Fabs of the world, though.
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Guest wrote:Looks like Fab got passed by a photo that JetPhotos promoted on Facebook, and now all four spots are occupied by JetPhotos promotions. Maybe it's time to campaign for fairer promotion practices, like people did with A.net (to deaf ears). The only things I can think of are 1) no non-newsworthy, non-Top 4 promotions within the first 24 hours, 2) excluding promoted shots from the homepage, or 3) making a separate Top 4 for promoted shots. 2 and 3 would be a simple database change. This of course, wouldn't account for the Fabs of the world, though.

Generally I do fully agree with you, but in this particular case I can't blame anyone for pushing other shots and keep such a shot out. Like I said before, in doesn't really speak for any serious Aviation webiste to have such shots displayed on front page.

But, apart from this special case, I agree 100% with you.
The problem is that these days you get much more views with pushed-content than by just being on the frontpage. Even on the old a.net I had a shot that reached the frontpage (without any promotion) rather early and stayed there for 13 hours. Still It didn't even reached 8.000 views, if you deduct the 500 it needed to get there, it makes it more less just 500 views an hour.
With social media they easily get 2.000+ with one hour.!

And I was speaking about the old a.net. with the new site it is unrealisitic to surpass the 3.000 mark without FB Promotion. On JP it is similar.
Again with FB / Twitter Promotion they easily still get 10K, speak of 20K+ views.

And that gap is growing.

As the major interest of these sites is commercial (to have as much traffic as possible) they aren't interested in making themselves rules for FB promotion. And like you said there is still no way to stop those Fab's. And he may be one of the worst offenders, but they are other, even on-anet I found galleries where people got every single shot on the frontpage (and no not every shot was spectacular). I think we need to get used to this, if we like it or not.
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